What really happened in the 1979 Dulce firefight?
by Lon (from Phantoms and Monsters Blog)
© 2010 (all rights reserved)
An article from the OCTOBER 2010 issue of THE STAR BEACON.
EDITOR'S NOTE: The following article was posted on Aileen Garroute's blog at http://churchofufology.blogspot.com.
Phil Schneider, supposedly one of
three people who survived the 1979 Dulce firefight between the large Greys, US intelligence and
military at the Dulce underground base, was found dead in January
1996, due to what was said to be an execution-style murder. He was
found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped around his
According to some sources, it appeared that he repeatedly suffered torture before he was finally killed. You can read his story in The Mysterious Life and Death of Philip Schneider. There have been numerous questions surrounding Schneider, in particular his motives and state of mind. Seven months prior to his death, he stated the following during a lecture:
"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my schooling was in that field and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico.
THE JICARILLA APACHE TOWN OF DULCE IN NORTHERN NEW MEXICO (Photo by Ann Ulrich Miller)
"Back in 1954, under the
Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to
circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty
with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Grenada Treaty, which
basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a
few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human
beings, but that they had to give details about the people
"Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock.
"As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts."
What was the Dulce firefight ... really? From information I have gathered, in 1979, a Grey was giving a lecture to an unknown determined number of scientists. During the lecture, a security officer came into the area with a sidearm on his belt. It was strictly forbidden to carry any weapons of any kind anywhere in the vicinity of the Greys. The security officer was instantly killed by the Grey.
Other security personnel, witnessing what was happening in that room on the security cameras, came to retaliate. The Grey, according to the information, allegedly killed everybody. The manner in which the Grey killed these people has not been disclosed but was noted that the cause of deaths were 'head wounds'. The approximate number killed was just over 60 scientists and security.
Because of the nature of the sources, I believe the story to be essentially true, though most of the information is third hand. It was, for the most part, an unfortunate accident and was classified as such.
Phil Schneider's interpretation of the event involved him which, from what I have gathered, is not true. Schneider stated in the lecture "... I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that." He tells a very good 'story,' but embellishes the facts as is the case in many of his recollections. I'm not saying that he is completely without fact, but it's hard to discern the truth when so much hyperbole is added.
What is the status of Dulce Base today? Your guess is as good as mine, but strange activity has been seen and documented over the years. I covered some of the theories in Dulce Conference Ends/The Dulce Report, which includes the full 'UFO Hunters' Dulce investigation episode.
NOTE: the following is an excellent article on underground bases -- Underground Bases, Missing Children and Extra-Terrestrials: What You Need to Know for Your Future. What are your thoughts on Dulce in particular and underground bases in general? -- Lon
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