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from the June 2008 Star Beacon
The Myth of Reincarnation
by Chief Joseph and John Cali
We’re doing something a bit
unusual this week — unusual for us, at least. Many of you,
especially if you’ve had a private reading with us, know Chief
Joseph does not often talk about reincarnation or past lives.
John Cali
We’ve rarely discussed reincarnation publicly in these
newsletters. But today we’re going to do just that.
We’re also doing something else slightly different
today. Joseph and I are “co-authoring” this article. Let me
explain.
Many years ago, a friend asked me if, when I was in a
conversation with another person, Joseph was there and
“participating” in the conversation. I said yes, that happened
often. It still does. Back then I called it a “blended”
conversation, or a “blending” of Joseph’s and my energies. It
wasn’t just me talking, it was both of us.
I don’t know the “mechanics” of how that happens. But I
do know when it’s happening, and I do know I can ask Joseph to
come in and participate with me. To an observer, it appears it’s
just me talking. But it’s really both of us.
That’s how we did this article. I don’t know as we’ll do
this again in the newsletter. But it’s kind of fun when the
“spirit” moves us.
Here’s Chief Joseph.
Chief Joseph
Thirty years ago I was going through a deeply painful
time. The Roman Catholicism I was born into no longer made
spiritual sense to me. I was struggling mightily to find a
spiritual path that did make sense.
Then I discovered the Seth books. I read every one of
them, several times each. Seth, as many of you know, was the
spirit guide of Jane Roberts for many years until her death in
1984. Jane and her artist husband, Rob Butts, created a series of
books that contributed much to what we now call the New Age
movement.
Seth was my first spiritual teacher, and he remains a
powerful influence in my life today. The phrase, “You create your
own reality” (which Chief Joseph often uses) began with Seth.
Seth also talked about what we call reincarnation, the
endless cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Back then I didn’t
believe in reincarnation.
In a way I still don’t fully understand, Seth’s ideas
about reincarnation resonated powerfully with me. They brought me
a deep sense of peace I’d never known before. It was the beginning
of the end of the years-long spiritual struggle I’d had, the quest
to know who I was and why I was here. I realized we are
all eternal, with no beginning and no ending. That realization was
powerfully liberating for me.
In the years since then, I’ve come to see reincarnation
through Chief Joseph’s “eyes,” from an even broader perspective.
And I’ve gone back and re-read some of Seth’s words, and found new
meaning in them, meaning that totally escaped me 30 years ago.
For example, in his book, The Seth Material, Seth
says “You will reincarnate whether or not you believe that you
will. It is much easier if your theories fit reality; but if they
do not, you will not change the nature of reincarnation one iota.
... When I tell you that you lived, for example, in 1836, I say
this because it makes sense to you now. You live all of your
reincarnations at once, but you find this difficult to
understand.”
Joseph has often said linear time, as we experience it,
simply doesn’t exist. In Seth’s words, “... the fact is that all
‘time’ is simultaneous.”
I particularly love the analogy Joseph gave me many years
ago. He likened time to a reel of movie film (for those of us born
before this digital age). When we’re watching the movie, we view
it one frame at a time. So, as the movie plays, we see the frames
as “past,” “present,” and “future.” Yet, in the film reel, they
all exist at once — “simultaneous time.”
All that’s happened in the “past” and that will happen in
the “future” exist now, in this present moment, our eternal now.
We can freely move back and forth across this landscape
of time. It’s all there, before and behind us, as with the film
reel. Even though we focus only on one frame “at a time,” it’s all
available to us now. We can change any of it at will, depending on
our thoughts and where we choose to focus them.
We are, therefore, never imprisoned by the “past” — nor
need we ever be worried about the “future.” If we don’t like what
we see, we can choose another thought and create a new reality,
“past” or “future.”
Joseph and I view reincarnation as simply a way, as Seth
said, of understanding more clearly who we are. So many believe
they are suffering in this lifetime for past “misdeeds” in another
lifetime — you know, paying their “karmic debts.”
Reincarnation, as we think of it now, is a myth. It
simply doesn’t exist since “past,” “present,” and “future” are all
simultaneous. For me, that is a very liberating concept. And
certainly a very thought-provoking one.
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